Email server Summary/Landscape

Brad Bartram bradbartram at ccsisp.com
Thu Aug 7 10:28:33 EDT 2003


You can also use postfix.  It comes with red hat by default, supports Maildir 
and thus Imap servers can interface with it.

brad

On Thursday 07 August 2003 10:21 am, Justin Bennett wrote:
> I've pretty much come to the conclusion that we need to do maildir but
> you can check my reasoning. We are doing UW-Imap to mostly
> netscape/mozilla clients (using sendmail/procmail) we have over 200
> users worldwide. We use squirrelmail to allow user to remotly access
> their mail. We have had requests for subfolders, but this is not a show
> stopper. Our european group wants subfolders so they copy their mail to
> their local folders in mozilla, so if their box dies, their hosed. Many
> users have extremly large inboxes, many over 200MB. We're trying to get
> them to file mail, or delete it but thats a seperate issue. Quotas on
> /var is always an option. Anyways when you open inbox in squirrelmail
> and it needs to parse a 200MB file it slows to a crawl. So I belive
> going to maildir is the best solution all around. I don't want to stray
> too far from the 'canned' Redhat Linux Enterprise product, just to keep
> things easy for update purposes. So procmail and sendmail with courier
> is prob the best option.
>
> Justin
>
> Mark Musone wrote:
> >For brevity's sake below is a quick summary that tries to simplify
> >things
> >
> >Mail Server			POP Server		IMAP Server
> >Native Format
> >
> >qmail				qmail-popd		NONE
> >Maildir
> >sendmail			uw-popd		uw-imapd
> >unix mailbox (*)
> >							courier
> >Maildir
> >Cyrus				Cyrus			Cyrus
> >Proprietary
> >
> >(*) Although the native format is unix mailbox, It's easy to change it.
> >
> >
> >IMHO, if you want to go with Maildir as your format, your probably best
> >off
> >going with the following options in order of best-fits:
> >
> >1. qmail Mailserver and the POP/IMAP server that natively supports
> >Maildir, meaning qmail and courier.
> >
> >2. If you don’t want to use qmail, since sendmail is easy to change
> >formats (using procmail), sendmail+procmail and courier
> >
> >3. If you don’t want to use courier for the imap server, you can use
> >sendmail+procmail and uw-imapd patched to use Maildir.
> >
> >
> >The one thing overall I'd caution is that you currently seem
> >predetermined to use Maildir. Generally you should determine the
> >following in order for the end email system:
> >
> >
> >1. What is the current number of users?
> >2. What is the email client the users are using
> >3. What is the average and maximum mailbox size
> >4. What is the average and maximum mail message size
> >5. What is the frequency and concurrency of email checking
> >6. what is the average and maximum number of mail messages per box
> >7. What is the average number of mail messages in/out per hour
> >8. What is the average "live" message time (how long do message sit
> >around till the end user deletes them)
> >
> >The above answers should determine the mailbox format for you (not the
> >other way around)
> >Once you have the mailbox format, then you can go on and choose the best
> >mail server and access server.
> >
> >barring all of the above..heh...just pick one and go with it!!! in most
> >small business to medium business needs, simply anything will work fine.
> >
> >Good Luck!
> >-Mark
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
>
> From: owner-nflug at nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug at nflug.org] On Behalf Of
>
> >Robert Meyer
> >Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:30 AM
> >To: nflug at nflug.org
> >Subject: Re: Maildir
> >
> >I used the uw patch.  Bad things happen... Outlook kills it in a bad
> >way.
> >
> >I've used courier IMAP with Outlook with good success.  It uses the
> >'maildir'
> >format.  Courier uses it's own daemon (as opposed to using (x)inetd) and
> >can be
> >customized for numbers of allowable connections.
> >
> >As far as storing maildir format, you can do it in sendmail by using
> >'procmail'
> >as your mail delivery agent.  It's a two line config for procmail and
> >you
> >specify procmail as your MDA in your sendmail config.  It took me about
> >20
> >minutes to research and write the appropriate configs the first time I
> >did it.
> >
> >Cheers!
> >
> >Bob
> >
> >--- Justin Bennett <justin.bennett at dynabrade.com> wrote:
> >>I know there has been some discussion about this before, but here
> >
> >goes.
> >
> >>I'm looking for an imap/maildir solution that is easy to maintain. I
> >>have systems here and in europe and use Redhat Enterpise with Redhat
> >>network to keep them up on updates and security patches. I would like
> >
> >to
> >
> >>do maildir, but all the solutions I seem to find require custom
> >>compiling software (qmail) to do this. Anybody have an easier
> >
> >solution,
> >
> >>I know there was talk of a UW patch, I assume you still need qmail
> >
> >though.
> >
> >>--
> >>Justin Bennett
> >>Network Administrator
> >>RHCE (Redhat Certified Linux Engineer)
> >>Dynabrade, Inc.
> >>8989 Sheridan Dr.
> >>Clarence, NY 14031
> >
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