Local Linux friendly ISP offer to NFLUG users

Joe Bielli jbielli at netsos.com
Fri Mar 22 17:30:52 EST 2002


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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Okay, well I think that if anyone here
works for a company who is willing to extend a special offer to NFLUG users
then they should be able to do so as it is &#8211;only- for nflug users and affiliates.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the simple and free note, I got the
company to approve providing free space / facility use for NFLUG meetings at
our office @ the corner of Cayuga and Cleveland drive, (easy access from the 33
or 90) should the group be interested (I spoke with Dege about this on the
phone earlier).. <span class=GramE>we</span> have conference room,
refrigerator, internet access, high speed coffee machine, etc.. I believe our
building is about 4000 sq feet or so.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Has nothing to do with what you are saying
of course, but since you decided to throw the word &#8216;free&#8217; in there I
wanted you to know that we are all pro-linux and open source advocates here as
well.. <span class=GramE>hence</span> the offer that was extended to NFLUG for free
meeting space and discounted DSL install should anybody be interested.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I hope you didn&#8217;t get the wrong
impression! I&#8217;m sorry if you did<span class=GramE>..</span> I did not
mean to invade the list with &#8216;commercial interests&#8217; and since nothing
was said about what is / isn&#8217;t allowed, it was just something I decided
to toss in.. <span class=GramE>of</span> course if list members disagree with
me posting that, I apologize!! Its only internet access </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;mso-bidi-font-family:
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style='mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'>K</span></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Take it easy,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Joe Bielli<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jbielli at netsos.com" title="jbielli at netsos.com">Joe Bielli</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nflug at nflug.org" title="nflug at nflug.org">nflug at nflug.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
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Year="2002" Day="22" Month="3"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Friday, March 22, 2002</span></font></st1:date><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:time
Minute="25" Hour="12"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Arial'>12:25 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE: Local
Linux friendly ISP offer to NFLUG users<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hey Ron,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Its not actually a
commercial pitch, I&#8217;ve been a member of this list for quite some time and
just wanted to get us all a deal if anyone was interested. I&#8217;m a tech,
not a salesman as I said. I get no perks or bonuses for people signing up, but
our service is basically &#8216;Geek DSL&#8217;, so I figured list members
might be interested. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The fees can be viewed at
our dslreports page <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/reviews/1903">http://www.dslreports.com/reviews/1903</a>
.. the installation pricing is discounted and includes modem, router, and
on-site install..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We are not the &#8216;big
dogs&#8217; in the DSL arena, however I think we provide better quality DSL
service and support than most ISP&#8217;s around here (we are all techies and
geeks, not customer service reps), and we are here to stay (unlike previous dsl
companies who spent millions of dollars on DSLAMs and couldn&#8217;t recoup
their cost / pulled out of town).. We charge the installation because we don&#8217;t
have special contracts with hardware manufacturers like verizon does, who gets
their modems for next to nothing. I&#8217;d be happy to answer any other
questions that you shoot my way..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sorry if this all sounded
like a big &#8216;sales pitch&#8217;.. but its more of a deal extended to the
local linux community.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Joe Bielli<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&lt;--------------------------------------------------snip---------------------------------------------------&gt;</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Well....I
think that any advertisement of any nature is a commercial statement and I
think ((in my own opinion)) we as a free</span></font></b></strong><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>loose
structured&nbsp;group (all of us) still need to keep it simple and
free.&nbsp;If commercial interests (of what ever kind) where to be totally
allowed with no input from the group stating that...Ok now we'er a free and
loose structured group, but how much and </span></font></b></strong><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>of
what type of advertisement is allowed or not.&nbsp;With the knowledge of an
inevitable&nbsp;damper it could&nbsp; put on the momentum of conversation on
this list. This is just my own opinion I do not make this statement on behalf
of NFLUG. I am only just a member</span></font></b></strong><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I
do not have any more say than anyone else!</span></font></b></strong><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Ron</span></font></b></strong><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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