Job Available: PHP/MySQL Developer NEEDED!

Joe Bielli jbielli at netsos.com
Fri Aug 9 10:40:57 EDT 2002


Yeah, there was a problem it would appear.. i wasn't able to hit the
website or perform dns lookups on nflug a few days ago..

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nflug at nflug.org [mailto:owner-nflug at nflug.org] On Behalf Of
Justin Bennett
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:31 AM
To: nflug at nflug.org
Subject: Re: Job Available: PHP/MySQL Developer NEEDED!

Wow that was slow getting posted...
I sent this a few days ago... :(



Justin Bennett wrote:

> I agree with Greg. This list has a lot of members with various skill 
> levels. From the seasoned Unix veterans, to Nt admins looking to 
> expand their skills, to the curious windows home user. There may be 
> someone on here that may fit this perfectly. On another, what I feel 
> is a more important, note is this list is supposed to build a sense of

> community and be a pleasent and helpful experience for it's members. 
> Isn't that what Linux and OpenSource is about, the sense of community?

> If I wanted that type of attitude I'd be on a M$ list. Even if you are

> offended by this message, which I don't see, I don't think it's 
> appropriate to post messages clearly attacking someone who was trying 
> to help other users.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Justin
>
> Gregory J. Neumann wrote:
>
>> Hey, Joe!
>> I'm not insulted.  Unless I consider that part about Linux gurus need

>> not apply, I can't find anything vaguely insinuating in the whole 
>> letter.  I'm not qualified, so maybe I'm too stupid to be insulted.  
>> Anyway, I hope this doesn't scare anybody away from posting cool 
>> opportunities on this list!
>>
>> What I'm happiest to hear about is that the meetings will still be 
>> there!
>>
>> -Greg
>> Self-styled Network Admin, (as Wyle E. Coyote would consider himself 
>> one!)
>> but mostly a PITA! ;-)
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> Your insinuation that anyone who is a member of this Linux list 
>>> server is unqualified for your job is insulting.  PHP & MYSQL?  You 
>>> have got to be kidding.
>>>
>>> "Developing" today in high level languages such as Visual Basic, SQL

>>> based, Power Builder,  ASP, etc. is relatively easy.  All of the 
>>> heavy lifting algorithms have been coded as objects called 
>>> components and you simply drag and drop them in or call them in from

>>> simple routines.   Then you wrap   
>>
>> them in a little of your own code to initialize them at the right 
>> moment or just customize their activity. This is the point of these 
>> languages.  To hide the difficult stuff so non-technical / math 
>> challenged individuals can create something useful without the 
>> expense of hiring professionals.
>>  
>>
>>> Most of the labor with these languages revolves around learning 
>>> (memorizing) the proprietary commands and, once an application is 
>>> written, trying to keep it stable in a multiuser, multipurpose LAN 
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> The users of these languages are referred to as 'Component 
>>> Assemblers', not programmers but you will never convince them of 
>>> that. Today everyone refers to themselves as a developer and the 
>>> word has lost it's meaning. An example of a 'developer' is the 
>>> person(s) who wrote MYSQL,  not the people   
>>
>> who use it.  The food chain is as follows:   Developer  >  Programmer

>> > Component Assembler > Script Kiddie > User
>>  
>>
>>> Working with the graphics design team?  You take their pictures and 
>>> drop them in the spot they want them in.  Then you might have to 
>>> animate them (if it isn't already prepackaged - see above) or have 
>>> them perform (flash, appear, disappear, rotate, etc) when some 
>>> activity occurs.   Children are   
>>
>> developing sophisticated web sites today which includes my very 
>> bright 14 year old nephew.  
>>
>>> The point is ............. the  job ain't all that.  If you think 
>>> the people who subscribe to this server are unqualified, how did you

>>> come to the conclusion they would still be able to recognize someone

>>> who is?
>>>
>>> Why don't you advertise this great job 'opportunity' on the list 
>>> server that the qualified people subscribe to and leave us poor 
>>> Linux boobs alone?   You are right.   You need to go back to school.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Wayne Melbrod
>>> Unqualified Programmer/Analyst
>>> Central Technology Division
>>> Integrated Deposit Systems Department
>>> M&T Bank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>>>> jbielli at netsos.com 08/07/02 11:09AM >>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>> Hello Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm going to be leaving Computer SOS to move on to greener pastures 
>>> and get my schooling finished, Friday is my last day.
>>> I will, however, continue to maintain and administer our linux 
>>> servers, although remotely (no linux-only gurus need apply, there is

>>> no position available).
>>>
>>> I have given myself the daunting task of finding myself a 
>>> replacement in the web development field.. Qualified candidates MUST

>>> know PHP/MYSQL, be ready and willing to share code samples, linux 
>>> skills are a plus, however the job is mostly application development

>>> / web design.
>>> Candidates also must be comfortable coding large applications, 
>>> picking up others work where they left off (mine ?), meeting with 
>>> the rest of the web team, and working closely with graphic
designers.
>>>
>>> Salary is decent, and this is a nice atmosphere to work in. If you 
>>> KNOW someone who may be interested, have them get in contact with me

>>> ASAP via email or by voice.
>>> Decision will be made by Friday.
>>>
>>> Please email resume's to jbielli at netsos.com   ..Thanks!
>>> Voice calls, ask for Joe @ 635-0086
>>>
>>> Note: this does not change the nflug meetings, I will still be here 
>>> to host them at our office on third Sundays (except August, of 
>>> course)..
>>>
>>> Joe Bielli
>>> Software Development
>>> Computer SOS, Inc.
>>> 1505 Cleveland Drive
>>> Cheektowaga, NY 14225
>>> E://jbielli@netsos.com P://716.635.0086
>>> F://716.634.7692
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>>
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