Job Available: PHP/MySQL Developer NEEDED!

[Justin Bennett]

I agree with Greg. This list has a lot of members with various skill 
levels. From the seasoned Unix veterans, to Nt admins looking to expand 
their skills, to the curious windows home user. There may be someone on 
here that may fit this perfectly. On another, what I feel is a more 
important, note is this list is supposed to build a sense of community 
and be a pleasent and helpful experience for it's members. Isn't that 
what Linux and OpenSource is about, the sense of community? If I wanted 
 that type of attitude I'd be on a M$ list. Even if you are offended by 
this message, which I don't see, I don't think it's appropriate to post 
messages clearly attacking someone who was trying to help other users.

Just my 2 cents.

Justin

Gregory J. Neumann wrote:

>Hey, Joe!
>I'm not insulted.  
>Unless I consider that part about Linux gurus need not apply, I can't find anything vaguely 
>insinuating in the whole letter.  I'm not qualified, so maybe I'm too stupid to be insulted.  
>Anyway, I hope this doesn't scare anybody away from posting cool opportunities on this list!
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>What I'm happiest to hear about is that the meetings will still be there!
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>-Greg
>Self-styled Network Admin, (as Wyle E. Coyote would consider himself one!)
>but mostly a PITA! ;-)
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>>Joe,
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>>Your insinuation that anyone who is a member of this Linux list server is unqualified for your job is insulting.  PHP & MYSQL?  You have got to be kidding.
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>>"Developing" today in high level languages such as Visual Basic, SQL based, Power Builder,  ASP, etc. is relatively easy.  All of the heavy lifting algorithms have been coded as objects called components and you simply drag and drop them in or call them in from simple routines.   Then you wrap 
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>them in a little of your own code to initialize them at the right moment or just customize their activity. This is the point of these languages.  To hide the difficult stuff so non-technical / math challenged individuals can create something useful without the expense of hiring professionals.
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>>Most of the labor with these languages revolves around learning (memorizing) the proprietary commands and, once an application is written, trying to keep it stable in a multiuser, multipurpose LAN environment.
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>>The users of these languages are referred to as 'Component Assemblers', not programmers but you will never convince them of that. Today everyone refers to themselves as a developer and the word has lost it's meaning. An example of a 'developer' is the person(s) who wrote MYSQL,  not the people 
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>who use it.  The food chain is as follows:   Developer  >  Programmer > Component Assembler > Script Kiddie > User
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>>Working with the graphics design team?  You take their pictures and drop them in the spot they want them in.  Then you might have to animate them (if it isn't already prepackaged - see above) or have them perform (flash, appear, disappear, rotate, etc) when some activity occurs.   Children are 
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>developing sophisticated web sites today which includes my very bright 14 year old nephew. 
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>>The point is ............. the  job ain't all that.  If you think the people who subscribe to this server are unqualified, how did you come to the conclusion they would still be able to recognize someone who is?
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>>Why don't you advertise this great job 'opportunity' on the list server that the qualified people subscribe to and leave us poor Linux boobs alone?   
>>You are right.   You need to go back to school.
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>>Sincerely,
>>Wayne Melbrod
>>Unqualified Programmer/Analyst
>>Central Technology Division
>>Integrated Deposit Systems Department
>>M&T Bank
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>>>>>jbielli at netsos.com 08/07/02 11:09AM >>>
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>>Hello Folks,
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>>I'm going to be leaving Computer SOS to move on to greener pastures and get my schooling finished, Friday is my last day.
>>I will, however, continue to maintain and administer our linux servers, although remotely (no linux-only gurus need apply, there is no position available).
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>>I have given myself the daunting task of finding myself a replacement in the web development field.. 
>>Qualified candidates MUST know PHP/MYSQL, be ready and willing to share code samples, linux skills are a plus, however the job is mostly application development / web design.
>>Candidates also must be comfortable coding large applications, picking up others work where they left off (mine ?), meeting with the rest of the web team, and working closely with graphic designers.
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>>Salary is decent, and this is a nice atmosphere to work in. If you KNOW someone who may be interested, have them get in contact with me ASAP via email or by voice.
>>Decision will be made by Friday.
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>>Please email resume's to jbielli at netsos.com   ..Thanks!
>>Voice calls, ask for Joe @ 635-0086
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>>Note: this does not change the nflug meetings, I will still be here to host them at our office on third Sundays (except August, of course)..
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>>Joe Bielli
>>Software Development
>>Computer SOS, Inc.
>>1505 Cleveland Drive
>>Cheektowaga, NY 14225
>>E://jbielli@netsos.com 
>>P://716.635.0086
>>F://716.634.7692
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