Thrashing

[Robert Meyer]

OK, my turn to comment...  First of all, I've NEVER had netscape start
thrashing.  I HAVE had it hang and hang the display but not in a long
while.  I've been running with at least 128 Meg of memory for a while
now (up to 192 at this point :-).  I also have Java turned off but
javascript turned on (only way to make yahoo mail work) so there could
be a problem in the Java runtime that's distributed with netscape.

The only wierd thing that it does to me is to hang netscape.  It
doesn't hang the screen so I can simply poke the 'xkill' icon that I
keep on my desktop for just such an occasion.

Come to think of it, I have had laptops with only 48 meg on them and
have never experienced this thrashing.  Point to note: I ALWAYS turn
off Java and frequently turn off JavaScript.

The next stage of the troubleshooting process is to note the web page
that you were visiting when the thing went rogue and determine if it
happens every time you visit it.  Then turn off Java and see if it
makes a difference.  "Your milage may vary.  Offer void where
prohibited.  No purchase necessary.  Operators are standing by..."

Bob
--- "Dennis J. Eberl" <dje at pcom.net> wrote:
> John,
> 
> JJ Neff wrote:
> 
> > The "thrashing did occur while I was responding to e-mail in Yahoo
> mail.  So
> > many pages were open in Netscape.
> 
> I haven't had thrashing under this circumstance, but I have had
> Netscape freeze
> up. It didn't stop me from retreating to my Shisen-Sho game on
> another desktop
> and when I returned, Netscape "magically" (yeah, sure) started
> working again.
> 
> I am running an SMP kernel with two Pentium Pro processors and only
> 64
> MB of RAM. How much memory on your machine? Thrashing occurs when
> memory is so tight the little sucker starts paging its brains out
> (using swap,
> a.k.a., virtual memory) to creep along trying to do the job. It's a
> pain in the
> ASCII but only becomes a problem if it ends up deadlocked (think of a
> snake
> swallowing it's tail), meaning it can never complete an operation.
> 
> DOES ANYONE HAVE A REALLY COMPETENT EXPLANATION?
> 
> > It came on slow and then when I tried to
> > click away , vroooommmm the hard drive was off to the races.  As
> you stated
> > nothing seemed to break it.  I couldn't move mouse, no key combos
> worked, and I
> > couldn't Ctrl-Alt-F1.
> >
> > What just hit me though was I have other machines on Lan, I should
> have been
> > able to go to my NT server and telnet to my DEBIAN box.
> 
> I never thought of that. I usually have (or could easily get) another
> machine
> running on my LAN. I'll have to re-enable Telnet.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> > Then command a
> > shutdown or kill the Netscape service.  That never occured to me
> while I was in
> > front of the machine.  I know this doesn't help those with one box,
> sorry. I
> > may have to try to upgrade my Netscape also as James suggested.
> >
> > JJN
> > --- "Dennis J. Eberl" <dje at pcom.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > <---------------  snip  --------------->
> 
> 

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Bob Meyer
Knightwing Communications
36 Cayuga Blvd
Depew, NY 14043
Phone: 716-308-8931 or 716-681-0076
Meyer_RM at Yahoo.com

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